Interview with Mania De Praeter (First prize 2024 BSPF Singles)

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Interview with Mania De Praeter (First prize 2024 BSPF Singles)

First, tell us a little bit about yourself and how you started photographing.

I was actually always photographing, but during COVID I received a fantastic camera as a birthday present: a Sony Alpha. Since there wasn't much else to do at the time, I started walking around the streets and started taking pictures.

And that's how you immediately got into street photography?

You want to test your camera and then you start wandering around the streets, looking for something nice to photograph. Street photography is just the easiest way to do that. Street photography just offers itself where you are at that moment.

How would you characterize your street photography?

Rather minimalist, mainly looking for light and shadow, beautiful scenes rather than a story often. That is also what I sometimes find lacking in myself. Maybe I should go after a story rather than just looking for something beautiful. Sometimes I want to do something different, but I always end up with the same thing.

You make very gentle black and white photographs, often from a distance, with isolated people in them. Is that what you set out looking for?

Unintentionally, I think so. If I walk down a very busy street it doesn't attract me. I always look for one or a few somewhat solitary figures that are a little aberrant, make you feel a little uncomfortable. I'm somewhat inspired by a number of artists like Wayne Thiebaud where I'm especially a fan of his work with unusual figures that he depicts in somewhat strange situations. I'm also a fan of Edward Hopper, he also often shows some lonely figures, people who are exactly from another world.

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Are there any photographers who inspire you?

I am a fan of Saul Leiter but my photography is not his kind of photography. Frank Horvat is an Italian photographer who also worked pretty much in the style of Saul Leiter. And of course, there are also Henri Cartier Bresson and Berenice Abbott.

Do you have any photo books that you draw inspiration from?

One of my first photo books was one by Phil Penman, a street photographer from New York. But really, I mostly have books about other visual artists rather than photographers. Recently I was asked to give a talk on street photography in Olso and then I bought myself some books, mainly to see what other street photographers have to say. One of the questions I asked myself was: is my street photography actually street photography? After all, I am waiting for a scene, for something to happen. Some other street photographers just don't do that and rather take candid pictures of a scene occurring before their eyes.

Is that how you proceed: you wait for something to happen?

Yes, I'll give an example. Last week in Antwerp, I was in the neighborhood where there are a lot of Chassidic Jews, who of course are very photogenic with their hats and so on. Then first I walk around to see what looks interesting and where the light is good. Then I keep waiting until I see something interesting and sometimes that can take quite a long time. But I also sometimes just walk around, usually without a plan. Then when I come to the same area I see something totally different again. I tend to return to the same neighborhood more often, also because then I gradually know where and when the light is beautiful. Still, sometimes it is also fun to go to a city I don't know at all and just walk around and see what happens and what comes my way. My boyfriend lives in New York and I go there every four or five weeks. Then I plan to go to the Westside, for example, but on the way I come across something nice and then I abandon that plan and end up going somewhere else altogether.

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But you do go out walking with the idea of taking pictures?

Most of the time yes. Of course, if I'm with someone else then the situation is different. If you see something interesting then I can get one good shot but it usually stops there. Then I can't sit and wait.

Many street photographers, especially when they just start taking pictures, have trouble photographing people. Is that also the case with you?

I find that difficult too, but as you can see in my photos, the people I photograph are often unrecognizable. Sometimes when I see a really interesting figure, I ask if I can take a picture of them but then the moment has passed of course. You also have people who take pictures with flash. I like that a lot, but it’s also very confronting. Then I prefer to do it differently. I sit on the ground and people see me, but if you stay there you don't stand out in the long run and they won't feel attacked because they don't really know what I'm doing.

Have you ever had any negative experiences with people you were photographing?

In the Jewish Quarter it did happen that suddenly someone was standing next to me thinking I was photographing the security cameras. When I showed them the pictures, people are usually reassured. I once had the police come to me in Antwerp. They had seen through their cameras that I had been standing there for an hour and asked what I was doing. I then also showed them my photos and it was fine. I have never been approached really aggressively.

You work digitally with a Sony Alpha, which lens do you prefer to use?

The lens I use most is a 24-70mm 2.8 from Sigma. I also tried a 50mm before but then I missed my wide angle and when I use a fixed wide angle I miss the fact that I can zoom in.

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I saw that you regularly post photos on Instagram. How is your relationship with social media?

In the beginning I didn't do anything with my photos. I posted a few on Instagram and was totally unsuccessful after which I thought, “What's the point?” Then someone sent me a message asking why I wasn't putting more photos online. I then posted a few photos in black and white and suddenly I did get more likes and it started to grow. In the end, it is the only way I can show my photos to others. Of course, Instagram is not an indicator because a ‘like’ doesn’t take any effort and says little about the quality of your photos, but it is the way I got in touch with the BSPF, for example, or through which they asked me to come speak in Olso. I also got to know many people that I have already met with that way.

So you got to know BSPF through Instagram?

Yes, I had also seen an ad on BSPF's Instagram last year and I heard all the people talking about their experiences with the festival. I sent in a photo back then as well.

You won, did that have an impact on you?

Honestly, I didn't expect at all that there was even a chance that I could win anything. When someone congratulated me on my prize on Saturday night, it came completely out of the blue. It was obviously very cool, also the fact that I get to be on the jury next year is nice. The cool thing is that you also get to know the people who do street photography in your own country.

Can you explain a bit more about your winning photo?

I really like going to Williamsburg in New York, there is also the Chassidic Quarter there. It was cloudy that day so I didn't have much inspiration but through that one photo I discovered that you can take good photos even on a cloudy day. There were some school buses parked and I saw the scene of the photo in the reflection of the windows. Photographing the reflection allowed me to take pictures of people without them realizing I was photographing them. I then took a lot of pictures until someone came to me and told me not to take pictures of their buses because they are private property.

I left without being sure I had a good picture. I did feel there was something in it but because of the gloomy weather, I had not immediately noticed that one image. When I saw that photo afterwards, brightened it a little bit and converted it to black and white, it suddenly became a different image.

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Does it happen more often that you rediscover a photograph that you may have passed by a bit at first glance, a few days later?

When I go to New York I take around 1,500 photos in three days. Some of them are still in my head and I look at them first, but a significant number of them I hardly remember taking. Then when I go through those images a few days or weeks later I sometimes discover some really good photos.

Do you have any tips for people who have just started or want to start doing street photography?

I'm obviously no expert but what I think you should do most of all is just start walking. See what comes your way because you can't predict what you're going to encounter. Weather or no weather, just leave and even earlier in case of special weather like rain or fog. It inspires me even more to make really cool images. I don't think you have to be the strongest on a technical level or have a good camera - although of course that helps - you mainly have to develop your own style. Don't look at others too much. I specifically never took any workshops myself because I didn't want to become a copy from the person giving the workshop. People say to me that they recognize my pictures. Surely that means I have my own style but maybe it also means that I always take more or less the same picture.

Above all, take a lot of pictures so that every now and then you can get a good picture out of them. However, a bad photo is a bad photo. You can do as many edits on it as you want, you will never make a good picture out of it.

@poppze
Date:
27.12.2024

You can view the First prize winning picture on our website, under Past Editions, go to 2024.

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